{"id":519,"date":"2025-12-25T01:56:19","date_gmt":"2025-12-25T01:56:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.bob-easton.com\/n4ree\/?p=519"},"modified":"2025-12-25T01:56:22","modified_gmt":"2025-12-25T01:56:22","slug":"efocf-better-than-efhw","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.bob-easton.com\/n4ree\/2025\/12\/25\/efocf-better-than-efhw\/","title":{"rendered":"EFOCF better than EFHW?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Mark, the Ham Florida Man has been running a series of YouTube videos scorning the ever popular EFHW antenna. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=AUEo4v8B0WU\">See his latest here<\/a>.  The basis of his concern is that the 49:1 transformer is inefficient, robbing power before it gets to the antenna.  Probably true, no matter how much research Colin, MM0OPX, has put into <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=ri4Q-eJ9l8s\">making them more efficient<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mark&#8217;s answer is a collaboration with an RF engineer in Belgium, Joeri Van Dooren, ON6URE, who writes about all sort of antennas that he sells through <a href=\"https:\/\/shop.rf.guru\/\">his own store<\/a>.  In particular, Mark suggests replacing EFHW antennas with <strong>E<\/strong>nd <strong>F<\/strong>ed <strong>O<\/strong>ff <strong>C<\/strong>enter <strong>F<\/strong>ed, EFOCF, antennas which use a 4:1 voltage balun, one with much lower losses than the 49:1.  Mark is a very good spokesperson for Joeri, making all the right points.  Interesting ideas that sound reasonable.  Maybe I should try one?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>My deployment options here in the HOA controlled Casa Easton Antenna Test Range are few.  There are no tall trees on this property, and no tall vertical structures. The best I can, unobtrusively do is a telescopic mast about 20 ft (6 meters) tall.  That&#8217;s one of the reasons I use an EFHW much of the time, in an inverted vee deployment.  Using a 3 ft plastic fence post at each end and the mast in the middle and about 66 ft of wire, I can easily reach anything East of the Rocky mountains from Central Florida, and sometimes well beyond, with the 5w  TR-45L, QMX or QMX+ (actually 3.8w out).  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"425\" src=\"https:\/\/www.bob-easton.com\/n4ree\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/QSO-map-1024x425.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-525\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.bob-easton.com\/n4ree\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/QSO-map-1024x425.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.bob-easton.com\/n4ree\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/QSO-map-300x124.png 300w, https:\/\/www.bob-easton.com\/n4ree\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/QSO-map-768x319.png 768w, https:\/\/www.bob-easton.com\/n4ree\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/QSO-map.png 1311w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>I like this antenna because I can effortlessly switch between 40m, 20m 15m and 10m with NO need for a tuner.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Can I get the same convenience and improved efficiency with an EFOCF?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Of the EFOCF antennas at Joeri&#8217;s store, the EFOC17 appears the best fit for my property. &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/shop.rf.guru\/pages\/why-the-efoc17-is-the-better-choice-for-40m-to-10m-operation\">Why the EFOC17 is the Better Choice for 40M to 10M Operation<\/a>&#8221; makes all the sales points.  Length of 17 meters fits. Band coverage 40m &#8211; 10m fits.  Sounds great.  Let&#8217;s build one.  Yes, as you know, I prefer to build when I can.  The <a href=\"https:\/\/shop.rf.guru\/products\/efoc17\">sales page for the EFOC17<\/a> has enough details for construction.  I already had a good 4:1 voltage balun and plenty of wire.  A group of clamp-on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dxengineering.com\/parts\/dxe-csb31-525-5\">ferrite bead chokes<\/a> arrived after a few days.  It didn&#8217;t take long to assemble and deploy.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I deployed just as I do my EFHW, this time with the 3.7m coax counterpoise laying on the ground.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"679\" src=\"https:\/\/www.bob-easton.com\/n4ree\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Scan_20251224-3-1-1024x679.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-523\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.bob-easton.com\/n4ree\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Scan_20251224-3-1-1024x679.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.bob-easton.com\/n4ree\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Scan_20251224-3-1-300x199.png 300w, https:\/\/www.bob-easton.com\/n4ree\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Scan_20251224-3-1-768x509.png 768w, https:\/\/www.bob-easton.com\/n4ree\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Scan_20251224-3-1-1536x1019.png 1536w, https:\/\/www.bob-easton.com\/n4ree\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Scan_20251224-3-1-2048x1358.png 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-media-text has-media-on-the-right is-stacked-on-mobile\"><div class=\"wp-block-media-text__content\">\n<p>A VNA sweep from 3Mhz to 30Mhz shows 4 resonance dips, NONE of them on the CW parts of  ham bands I prefer (40m, 20m, 15m, 10m) let alone the ones mentioned in Joeri&#8217;s articles.  Further, checking the individual bands I use, I found SWR measures, impedances and reactance well beyond the tolerance of my rigs and most well beyond being tunable with my <a href=\"https:\/\/www.4sqrp.com\/4stuner.php\">Four State QRP tuner<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/div><figure class=\"wp-block-media-text__media\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"320\" height=\"240\" src=\"https:\/\/www.bob-easton.com\/n4ree\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/OCF17.bmp\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-520 size-full\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.bob-easton.com\/n4ree\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/OCF17.bmp 320w, https:\/\/www.bob-easton.com\/n4ree\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/OCF17-300x225.bmp 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 320px) 100vw, 320px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>I captured VNA charts for individual bands, but will save the bandwidth of posting them here.  A summary of the 4 bands I really want show the following SWR levels and only 2 will work with my radios without needing a tuner.  <strong>Definitely not a useable antenna for my needs<\/strong>.<br>40m, 7.040 Mhz, 6.715:1<br>20m, 14.060 Mhz, 3.504:1<br>15m, 21.060 Mhz, 1.937:1<br>10m, 28.060 Mhz, 1.585:1<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-media-text has-media-on-the-right is-stacked-on-mobile\"><div class=\"wp-block-media-text__content\">\n<p>Noting that Joeri says &#8220;Antennas mounted higher or lower than 10 meters may exhibit different SWR values.&#8221;  I tried a different deployment.  An older (broken 4 times) mast was good for 4 about meters height.  I hoisted the balun and coax on that mast, getting all 3.7m of choked coax off the ground, and ran the wire as a sloper to the 6m mast 17m away.  While less than half way to 10m, it was much higher than the inverted vee.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The results were not much different. Note well the <strong>lack of anything near 20m<\/strong>, my most used band.<\/p>\n<\/div><figure class=\"wp-block-media-text__media\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"320\" height=\"240\" src=\"https:\/\/www.bob-easton.com\/n4ree\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/HOCF17.bmp\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-521 size-full\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.bob-easton.com\/n4ree\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/HOCF17.bmp 320w, https:\/\/www.bob-easton.com\/n4ree\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/HOCF17-300x225.bmp 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 320px) 100vw, 320px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Unresolved question:<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>I can&#8217;t really expect Joeri to answer this question since I&#8217;m not using an antenna I purchased from him, only one that I think is similar to his.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Does this antenna really need to be 10m high (impossible here), or did I make some other blunder building it?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mark, the Ham Florida Man has been running a series of YouTube videos scorning the ever popular EFHW antenna. See his latest here. The basis of his concern is that the 49:1 transformer is inefficient, robbing power before it gets to the antenna. Probably true, no matter how much research Colin, MM0OPX, has put into [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_genesis_hide_title":false,"_genesis_hide_breadcrumbs":false,"_genesis_hide_singular_image":false,"_genesis_hide_footer_widgets":false,"_genesis_custom_body_class":"","_genesis_custom_post_class":"","_genesis_layout":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-519","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","6":"category-antennas","7":"entry"},"featured_image_src":null,"featured_image_src_square":null,"author_info":{"display_name":"Bob Easton","author_link":"https:\/\/www.bob-easton.com\/n4ree\/author\/n4ree\/"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bob-easton.com\/n4ree\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/519","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bob-easton.com\/n4ree\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bob-easton.com\/n4ree\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bob-easton.com\/n4ree\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bob-easton.com\/n4ree\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=519"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/www.bob-easton.com\/n4ree\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/519\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":526,"href":"https:\/\/www.bob-easton.com\/n4ree\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/519\/revisions\/526"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bob-easton.com\/n4ree\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=519"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bob-easton.com\/n4ree\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=519"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bob-easton.com\/n4ree\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=519"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}